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PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

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Re: PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

Post by Keith » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:35 pm

Sir Eoin O'Fada wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:18 pm
What I find hard to understand is that you have not familiarized yourself with the law.

Whilst it is illegal, as you say, to possess anything for the purpose of self defence it is not illegal to use anything for self defence if such defence is proved to be lawful.
I have familierised myself with the law, but I don't think it is good enough that we should be judged at all when it comes to self defence. I realise this can be a problem if someone murders someone & claims self defence, but risking innocent lives based on the premise that someone might purposely kill someone & claim self defence is not sensible or common sense. The number of cases involving murder & claiming self defence are far lower than people being murdered or hospitalised because they are not able to defend themselves. A woman just got attacked in a car jacking & is in hospital, what do you suggest she could have done to protect herself? Two people just got stabbed in a suspected terrorist attack, one is dead, they were just walking in Bourk St, what do you suggest they could have done to protect themselves?
I will wager you have never been attacked Mr O'Fada, I will wager your family has never been threatened. If you had this experience I will wager your comments would be a lot less negative.
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Re: PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

Post by Sir Eoin O'Fada » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:06 pm

My comments were not negative, I was merely pointing out to you where you were in error.



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Re: PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

Post by MikeA » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:47 am

Sir Eoin O'Fada wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:10 pm
It is illegal for Licensed gun owners in Australia to use their firearm for self defence or for the defence of their family in an armed home invasion.
It is not illegal at all, in NSW at least, what is illegal is having a firearm ready for use in the home for defence.

One may use sufficient force to overcome an attacker, particularly if one believes that one's life is in danger, if the attack is with a firearm then it is legal to use a firearm to resist even to the point of lethality.

See:http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/5022 ... ralia.aspx

This gives a general overview.
Not entirely true my friend, not in the eyes of the police. There are many cases of firearms owners falling foul in these very situations. If you have time to go get your firearm from safe storage then you have time to 1. call the police and 2 flee the scene. Using a firearm is not accepted.



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Re: PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

Post by MikeA » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:54 am

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Re: PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

Post by Keith » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:27 am

MikeA wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:54 am
Signed and shared
Thanks Mike, appreciated.
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Re: PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

Post by Sir Eoin O'Fada » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:08 pm

224 have signed, WOW!!



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Re: PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

Post by Grumpy » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:04 am

I would wager if the carjacked woman had been armed the car jackers would have found it in her bag or the glovebox after the event.
Thus transferring a lethal weapon from a low to no threat person to a high threat person
+1 for current laws

In the park the result would in most probability have been similar.
+2 for current laws

We simply to not live in a dangerous enough country, but the USA being a far more savage place is another matter

I hope Australia never becomes as savage as the USA .



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Re: PETITION: The legal right to armed self defence in Australia

Post by Keith » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:18 pm

Grumpy wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:04 am
I would wager if the carjacked woman had been armed the car jackers would have found it in her bag or the glovebox after the event.
Thus transferring a lethal weapon from a low to no threat person to a high threat person
+1 for current laws

In the park the result would in most probability have been similar.
+2 for current laws

We simply to not live in a dangerous enough country, but the USA being a far more savage place is another matter

I hope Australia never becomes as savage as the USA .
Pepper spray is not classed as a lethal weapon in any country as far as I know Grumpy, you seem to have got hold of the wrong end of the stick!!!
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