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Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:55 pm
by Bilby
Thanks for your comments Warrigal and Keith, as I do appreciate them and it's given me much to think about. I never thought of a hand gun as a hunting tool. It's been a while since I've read through our countries gun laws, but I was wondering if we are allowed to buy silences for hand guns? I did a quick google and I found this:
"Silencers are a contentious subject in Australia, with the Government refusing to reclassify them so that they are not prohibited weapons. ... A 'good' silencer is going to reduce noise by 30 db. and when firing supersonic ammunition, it many reduce noise to a point where hearing protection is no longer needed.Jul 19, 2018"
I've never held a hand gun of any kind, much less fired one. I would be willing to give it a go at the local firing range with professional coaching. If it works out and I am allowed to purchase one with a silencer, then I would still be able to hunt food on my property without anyone hearing me further away. Such a weapon would also provide me with much needed personal protection. I will be looking into women's purpose built rifles like the Weatherby Vanguard Camilla with a scope.
I really hate the kickback from the larger guns, which leaves me with a very painful right collarbone for days afterwards. This is why I've felt that guns wouldn't be so great for me in a war-like survival scenario. I gave up these old double barrel ones in the gun amnesty, as they weren't registered nor was there much chance they ever could be.

Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:41 pm
by Thunda
A .22 using sub sonic's is enough for anyone to get a feed anywhere.

It will take down a roo at 150 metres, how do l know? I do it every day and I'm ex military and pro shooter.

It's quiet, cheap to run, and light, just needs some training in ballistics and ya can stockpile a ton of rounds.

Nothing beats trapping, l started rabbit trapping at 12yo, and picking dead wool in the droughts to get my start, that was in the fiftys l still use snares and hunt with throwing axe and never been hungry.

Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:50 pm
by Frostbite
The problem with traps and snares in a hostile environment is they force you into a routine of checking the traps. Everybody knows, except perhaps the ANA, that routine in a hostile world gets you killed.

As a former soldier you should know that.

Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:10 pm
by Thunda
Don't place yourself in a hostile environment, if you are, your in the wrong place and don't know the basics of survival.

Your comment puts you on the back foot brother, you need to be the predator, not the victim.

Defence may work for a while in the worse case, but sooner than later you WILL need to get serious, this forum is about survival l thought.

If you have family to protect ( an l don't) it goes back to tribal survival, strength in numbers.

Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:23 pm
by Thunda
I missed the last bit of your reply, about knowing better being an ex digger.

l survived! And I'll continue to survive until l drop from old age, and I'll guarantee you don't have the years behind you that l have or the back ground.

It all depends on your environment, if you don't know what's going on around your turf you won't last long traps an snares ain't just fer tucker.

Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:25 pm
by Frostbite
Sometimes the hostile environment comes to you. Especially if you are static in a well setup retreat, even one with a new saw mill.

Your comments are contradictory. How can you not place yourself in a hostile environment and still be a predator?

This forum is 90% dreamers and 10% doers. I'm in the 10%.

I do have a family to protect. Two of whom are ex army, one of whom spent a fair bit of time in a very bad place overseas.

Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:28 pm
by Frostbite
Thunda wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:23 pm
I missed the last bit of your reply, about knowing better being an ex digger.

l survived! And I'll continue to survive until l drop from old age, and I'll guarantee you don't have the years behind you that l have or the back ground.

It all depends on your environment, if you don't know what's going on around your turf you won't last long traps an snares ain't just fer tucker.
Get with the times old man. We use drones these days. And thermal optics.

Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:12 pm
by Keith
Thunda wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:41 pm
A .22 using sub sonic's is enough for anyone to get a feed anywhere.

It will take down a roo at 150 metres, how do l know? I do it every day and I'm ex military and pro shooter.

It's quiet, cheap to run, and light, just needs some training in ballistics and ya can stockpile a ton of rounds.

Nothing beats trapping, l started rabbit trapping at 12yo, and picking dead wool in the droughts to get my start, that was in the fiftys l still use snares and hunt with throwing axe and never been hungry.
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Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:00 pm
by Thunda
Frost bite, FYI.
I also use thermal and inferred.

Drones? Not anymore l own and fly a real aircraft.

Re: Bugging Out Alone. What is your choice & why?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:12 pm
by Thunda
Frostbite wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:25 pm
Sometimes the hostile environment comes to you. Especially if you are static in a well setup retreat, even one with a new saw mill.

Your comments are contradictory. How can you not place yourself in a hostile environment and still be a predator?

This forum is 90% dreamers and 10% doers. I'm in the 10%.

I do have a family to protect. Two of whom are ex army, one of whom spent a fair bit of time in a very bad place overseas.
There you go again dreamer, the more you say the more you prove your the dreamer, no experience, but like to quote the experiences of some one else that has got some.

Your making a fool of yourself, get a life, it's people like you, the rest of us are prepping against because you can't get through life without bagging others.